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		<title>By: kipper</title>
		<link>http://www.eshindirect.com/2005/04/20/inquisitor-ratzinger/comment-page-1/#comment-1860</link>
		<dc:creator>kipper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2005 22:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for clarifying that for us...</description>
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		<title>By: Sylvester</title>
		<link>http://www.eshindirect.com/2005/04/20/inquisitor-ratzinger/comment-page-1/#comment-1859</link>
		<dc:creator>Sylvester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2005 16:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading this page, I think both of your arguements are wrong.  Kiper&#039;s more than Eshin&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading this page, I think both of your arguements are wrong.  Kiper&#8217;s more than Eshin&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.eshindirect.com/2005/04/20/inquisitor-ratzinger/comment-page-1/#comment-921</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it true that he was a member of the Hitler Youth?</description>
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		<title>By: Eshin</title>
		<link>http://www.eshindirect.com/2005/04/20/inquisitor-ratzinger/comment-page-1/#comment-922</link>
		<dc:creator>Eshin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn&#039;t know... but he was born in 1927, making him the right age to be part of the junior members of the Hitler Youth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t know&#8230; but he was born in 1927, making him the right age to be part of the junior members of the Hitler Youth.</p>
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		<title>By: ellenvdr</title>
		<link>http://www.eshindirect.com/2005/04/20/inquisitor-ratzinger/comment-page-1/#comment-923</link>
		<dc:creator>ellenvdr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if he was - wasn&#039;t every youth in his time and how much influence did they have at age 14-15?
Give hime time, pre-judging is too easy.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if he was &#8211; wasn&#8217;t every youth in his time and how much influence did they have at age 14-15?<br />
Give hime time, pre-judging is too easy.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.eshindirect.com/2005/04/20/inquisitor-ratzinger/comment-page-1/#comment-924</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, but just wanted to know a bit more about this period in his life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, but just wanted to know a bit more about this period in his life.</p>
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		<title>By: Eshin</title>
		<link>http://www.eshindirect.com/2005/04/20/inquisitor-ratzinger/comment-page-1/#comment-925</link>
		<dc:creator>Eshin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, pretty much most people at that age were, so no surprises there.

As regards to giving him time, how much time do you need? The guy is already 78 years old and taking up the position of leader of 1.1 bn Catholics worldwide, at a time when most leaders of any organisation are usually retired.

Regardless of his Hitler Youth affiliations, which he can be forgiven for, he already has his whole life as a track record. Given that he was the Pope in waiting as John Paul II was ailing, it&#039;s not likely that he&#039;ll change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, pretty much most people at that age were, so no surprises there.</p>
<p>As regards to giving him time, how much time do you need? The guy is already 78 years old and taking up the position of leader of 1.1 bn Catholics worldwide, at a time when most leaders of any organisation are usually retired.</p>
<p>Regardless of his Hitler Youth affiliations, which he can be forgiven for, he already has his whole life as a track record. Given that he was the Pope in waiting as John Paul II was ailing, it&#8217;s not likely that he&#8217;ll change.</p>
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		<title>By: kipper</title>
		<link>http://www.eshindirect.com/2005/04/20/inquisitor-ratzinger/comment-page-1/#comment-926</link>
		<dc:creator>kipper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your blog is normally good mate. This was an awful post. Sorry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your blog is normally good mate. This was an awful post. Sorry</p>
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		<title>By: Eshin</title>
		<link>http://www.eshindirect.com/2005/04/20/inquisitor-ratzinger/comment-page-1/#comment-927</link>
		<dc:creator>Eshin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As in?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As in?</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.eshindirect.com/2005/04/20/inquisitor-ratzinger/comment-page-1/#comment-928</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prob a catholic....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prob a catholic&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Eshin</title>
		<link>http://www.eshindirect.com/2005/04/20/inquisitor-ratzinger/comment-page-1/#comment-929</link>
		<dc:creator>Eshin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Careful... my mum&#039;s side happens to be Catholic.

And I&#039;m reasonably sure he isn&#039;t. That&#039;s why I was wondering why he took offense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Careful&#8230; my mum&#8217;s side happens to be Catholic.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m reasonably sure he isn&#8217;t. That&#8217;s why I was wondering why he took offense.</p>
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		<title>By: kipper</title>
		<link>http://www.eshindirect.com/2005/04/20/inquisitor-ratzinger/comment-page-1/#comment-930</link>
		<dc:creator>kipper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eshin - I didn&#039;t take offense, just thought the post was bad. Sounded like something I would expect to read in The Sun or The Daily Mail.

David - No, I&#039;m not Catholic. Are you Jewish?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eshin &#8211; I didn&#8217;t take offense, just thought the post was bad. Sounded like something I would expect to read in The Sun or The Daily Mail.</p>
<p>David &#8211; No, I&#8217;m not Catholic. Are you Jewish?</p>
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		<title>By: Eshin</title>
		<link>http://www.eshindirect.com/2005/04/20/inquisitor-ratzinger/comment-page-1/#comment-931</link>
		<dc:creator>Eshin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, my writings never been all that amazing so I can&#039;t really understand why you&#039;d be expecting such a high standard from me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, my writings never been all that amazing so I can&#8217;t really understand why you&#8217;d be expecting such a high standard from me.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.eshindirect.com/2005/04/20/inquisitor-ratzinger/comment-page-1/#comment-932</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes I am, why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes I am, why?</p>
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		<title>By: kipper</title>
		<link>http://www.eshindirect.com/2005/04/20/inquisitor-ratzinger/comment-page-1/#comment-933</link>
		<dc:creator>kipper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eshin - no you misunderstand me. I&#039;ve read your stuff for a long time so I&#039;m well used to the way you write (not that there&#039;s anything wrong with it). It&#039;s not how you wrote it, it&#039;s what you wrote. Sounded like a tabloid trash story.

David - seeing as you liked to jump to the conclusion that I was Catholic, I thought I&#039;d jump to the conclusion you were Jewish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eshin &#8211; no you misunderstand me. I&#8217;ve read your stuff for a long time so I&#8217;m well used to the way you write (not that there&#8217;s anything wrong with it). It&#8217;s not how you wrote it, it&#8217;s what you wrote. Sounded like a tabloid trash story.</p>
<p>David &#8211; seeing as you liked to jump to the conclusion that I was Catholic, I thought I&#8217;d jump to the conclusion you were Jewish.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.eshindirect.com/2005/04/20/inquisitor-ratzinger/comment-page-1/#comment-934</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who&#039;s jumping? Using logic here...You did not like his post, so assumed you were Catholic, as Eshin was not very complemetary about Benedict XVI. You aasumed I was Jewish from my name? Very smart of you...We have an expression in Hebrew - Shakli Be Tachat...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who&#8217;s jumping? Using logic here&#8230;You did not like his post, so assumed you were Catholic, as Eshin was not very complemetary about Benedict XVI. You aasumed I was Jewish from my name? Very smart of you&#8230;We have an expression in Hebrew &#8211; Shakli Be Tachat&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Eshin</title>
		<link>http://www.eshindirect.com/2005/04/20/inquisitor-ratzinger/comment-page-1/#comment-935</link>
		<dc:creator>Eshin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first paragraph is entirely true though.

The Inquisition survived within the Catholic Church until the early 1980&#039;s when it was renamed the Centre or Office for the Doctrine of the Faithful. Ratzinger headed that Office within the Vatican.

Ratzinger has come down hard on those that theologically question the traditional views of the Catholic church. He vehemently opposed an iniative by Asian Catholics to embrace different spiritual backgrounds (as they were losing much ground to new &quot;Christian&quot; offshoots). I&#039;m not entirely sure whether he had them excommunicated, funding withheld or what.

He&#039;s been the traditionalist voice in the late John Paul&#039;s ear. John Paul II once asked for forgiveness for the Catholic Church, and said Catholics must forgive too. It just makes it harder with an inquisitor on the papal throne.

The Catholic Church needs a new lease of life to it. When I mockingly suggest that the faithful continue to fill the Vatican coffers, it&#039;s because Catholism will lose more of its dwindling flock as it become disconnected from serving real world spiritual needs. But then, the Vatican has plenty of cash from its property assets worldwide, weekly donations, and almost a millenia of worldwide rape and pillage of those who opposed her.

John Paul II was a liberal yet he stuck to some traditional hardline views. With Ratzinger, it almost becomes a certainty that no more liberalism within the Church will continue. And even the liberal moves made by John Paul seem in jeopardy now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first paragraph is entirely true though.</p>
<p>The Inquisition survived within the Catholic Church until the early 1980&#8242;s when it was renamed the Centre or Office for the Doctrine of the Faithful. Ratzinger headed that Office within the Vatican.</p>
<p>Ratzinger has come down hard on those that theologically question the traditional views of the Catholic church. He vehemently opposed an iniative by Asian Catholics to embrace different spiritual backgrounds (as they were losing much ground to new &#8220;Christian&#8221; offshoots). I&#8217;m not entirely sure whether he had them excommunicated, funding withheld or what.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s been the traditionalist voice in the late John Paul&#8217;s ear. John Paul II once asked for forgiveness for the Catholic Church, and said Catholics must forgive too. It just makes it harder with an inquisitor on the papal throne.</p>
<p>The Catholic Church needs a new lease of life to it. When I mockingly suggest that the faithful continue to fill the Vatican coffers, it&#8217;s because Catholism will lose more of its dwindling flock as it become disconnected from serving real world spiritual needs. But then, the Vatican has plenty of cash from its property assets worldwide, weekly donations, and almost a millenia of worldwide rape and pillage of those who opposed her.</p>
<p>John Paul II was a liberal yet he stuck to some traditional hardline views. With Ratzinger, it almost becomes a certainty that no more liberalism within the Church will continue. And even the liberal moves made by John Paul seem in jeopardy now.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.eshindirect.com/2005/04/20/inquisitor-ratzinger/comment-page-1/#comment-936</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post...</description>
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		<title>By: Eshin</title>
		<link>http://www.eshindirect.com/2005/04/20/inquisitor-ratzinger/comment-page-1/#comment-937</link>
		<dc:creator>Eshin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgive me my style on the day that posted up about the new pope. It was with some disgust that I saw Ratzinger accept his nomination for the papacy. The man embodies intolerance in my view and it is something that screams against fibre of who I am as a Christian.

Ah yes, the great Wiki as a source of established knowledge. I can go in there right now myself and right up all the stuff that I&#039;ve just said here on my blog and it will get published up there. That is until a writer with say a Catholic bias comes along and changes it. Not a definitive source for definitions that come in different shades of grey. Guaranteed, if I look up the Vietnam war it will have been written by hard right American patriots or American apologists. How many Vietnamese have access to the Internet? That&#039;s Wiki for you.

My sources? I read a few books on the Inquisition. My interest in religion and spiritualism went back long before Dan Brown&#039;s own assertions. There were also a number of articles in Time magazine on Ratzinger before John Paul II died. Actually, none of my statements come from any of Brown&#039;s books. My dislike for the Catholic Church stemmed way before that, at about the same time I discovered a loathing for extremist religious organisations the world over. The road to God is a personal spiritual journey.

Religion is a form of control, pure and simple. In this regard, it perhaps shouldn&#039;t be transient and should remain rigid. But it should always strive to be contextually relevant for the people in the contemporary for it to strive to be a meaning more than a control. Values are changing and interpretation of these values are fluid.

Perhaps we should stop eating pork? The Bible does tell us this and it is traditional for Christians not to eat it in accordance with the Bible. It&#039;s also nice to know how we can handle our slaves because the Bible happily lays this out for us.

Catholicism is atoning for its past. John Paul II began that process but with Ratzinger I doubt it will be easier to continue that atonement. The Inquisition should have been abolished utterly and completely, not renamed and reformed. That would have been one gesture at least to atonement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgive me my style on the day that posted up about the new pope. It was with some disgust that I saw Ratzinger accept his nomination for the papacy. The man embodies intolerance in my view and it is something that screams against fibre of who I am as a Christian.</p>
<p>Ah yes, the great Wiki as a source of established knowledge. I can go in there right now myself and right up all the stuff that I&#8217;ve just said here on my blog and it will get published up there. That is until a writer with say a Catholic bias comes along and changes it. Not a definitive source for definitions that come in different shades of grey. Guaranteed, if I look up the Vietnam war it will have been written by hard right American patriots or American apologists. How many Vietnamese have access to the Internet? That&#8217;s Wiki for you.</p>
<p>My sources? I read a few books on the Inquisition. My interest in religion and spiritualism went back long before Dan Brown&#8217;s own assertions. There were also a number of articles in Time magazine on Ratzinger before John Paul II died. Actually, none of my statements come from any of Brown&#8217;s books. My dislike for the Catholic Church stemmed way before that, at about the same time I discovered a loathing for extremist religious organisations the world over. The road to God is a personal spiritual journey.</p>
<p>Religion is a form of control, pure and simple. In this regard, it perhaps shouldn&#8217;t be transient and should remain rigid. But it should always strive to be contextually relevant for the people in the contemporary for it to strive to be a meaning more than a control. Values are changing and interpretation of these values are fluid.</p>
<p>Perhaps we should stop eating pork? The Bible does tell us this and it is traditional for Christians not to eat it in accordance with the Bible. It&#8217;s also nice to know how we can handle our slaves because the Bible happily lays this out for us.</p>
<p>Catholicism is atoning for its past. John Paul II began that process but with Ratzinger I doubt it will be easier to continue that atonement. The Inquisition should have been abolished utterly and completely, not renamed and reformed. That would have been one gesture at least to atonement.</p>
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		<title>By: kipper</title>
		<link>http://www.eshindirect.com/2005/04/20/inquisitor-ratzinger/comment-page-1/#comment-938</link>
		<dc:creator>kipper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David - using the sort of faux-logic you used, I assumed you were Jewish because you asked about the Hitler Youth.

We have an expression in Greek - Filese to kolo mou...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David &#8211; using the sort of faux-logic you used, I assumed you were Jewish because you asked about the Hitler Youth.</p>
<p>We have an expression in Greek &#8211; Filese to kolo mou&#8230;</p>
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